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Jeffery Loria-Does the MLB need to rid of this guy?

marlinsfan242010-08-26 15:04:59 +0000 #1
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In the season after citing finances to dump slugger Miguel Cabrera, the Marlins made a cool $37.8 million profit.

When their publicly funded stadium was approved a spring ago, the Marlins were on a tidy two-year run of making nearly $50 million.

After team president David Samson predicted this October would "end in a pile," the season crumbled because a few measly million weren't invested in a reliable bullpen.

But Samson's prediction looks correct from the proper angle. The season will end in a pile. That's obvious, according to less-surprising-than-confirming financial records obtained by the website Deadspin.com.

Marlins, these records show, have skimped on their baseball product for years. But team owner Jeffrey Loria sure has a big pile, doesn't he?

No one begrudges Loria for making money. He's in business to make money. That's Capitalism 101.

But to strip a team of top players while earning big gobs of money demonstrates what Loria really thinks of the fans and the product. What's more, the Marlins compounded their lie about finances with another lie Monday after the documents came to light.

"The [financial] statements show what we've always said,'' Samson said in a conference call with media.

Samson said they were saving this money to fund a new ballpark. He insisted he's said this for years, even when Cabrera wasn't re-signed.

"It's very easy,'' he said. "We could've had Cabrera and no ballpark. We always made our decisions based on the long-term viability of the franchise. Always."

This is a bit amusing, because I've talked finances with Samson for years and never heard this reason. I once wrote a column before the 2008 season about how insulting it was to have a $24.8 million payroll — about half that of the next-lowest team.

Samson said then that there were "hidden" costs of a team. When asked what they were, he kept up a pattern of never saying anything about a secret stash to fund a new stadium.

"Marketing,'' he said then.

Marketing?

"We're spending eight figures on marketing," he said.

Eight figures — like $10 million is eight figures?

"Yes,'' he said.

Now it's stadium saving. Whatever.This isn't even about the Marlins giving away Cody Ross to San Francisco on Sunday to save $1 million. The season's gone anyhow. Maybe it's time to give Cameron Maybin one more chance, anyhow. Maybin, of course, came in the Cabrera trade.

As a fan, you imagine Cabrera and Hanley Ramirez still together. You imagine Mike Stanton added. You imagine what the Marlins' stadium opening would have with them anchoring the lineup.

"You can't look at that one year,'' Samson said about trading Cabrera to Detroit in a move that's yielded nothing so far. "You have to look out five years to look out where you're doing and what you're doing."

That's valid. Let's go beyond the two years' records that Deadspin had. They showed the Marlins had a $37.8 million profit when the payroll was $24.8 million in 2008, and a $11.1 million profit when the payroll was $35 million in 2009.

Let's throw in 2006 and 2007, when the Marlins had $15 million and $30 million payrolls, respectively. You can conservatively say that in the past four seasons the Marlins have earned more than $100 million.

That will cover much of the $155 million the Marlins are putting toward the $515 million stadium.

You bet that city of Miami commissioners wish they knew such facts before gift-wrapping that stadium deal. But the commissioners never saw the documents, Deadspin reported.

That's not the Marlins' fault. Nor is Samson to question for cutting a good deal for his franchise. It's all on the commissioners for being loose with public money and the latest to fall for the stadium hustle, which is sport's version of three-card monte.

The Marlins have one more year at SunLife Stadium, where Samson again insisted they "have the worst lease in sports." He's probably right about that. But what's it say when that awful deal still nets a nine-figure profit over the past four seasons?

It says the Marlins better not skimp on players when moving into the new stadium. It's one thing to play fans for suckers when public millions aren't involved. Now that they are, the Marlins best get their piles right

www.sun-sentinel.com...823,0,1551774.column

I think that the Marlins and the MLB would be better served if this guy and Sampson were let go. They are money hungry and I don't feel like they actually care about putting the best product out there for the Marlins to win. They say they couldn't afford Miguel Cabrera and a new stadium, but the documents that came out clearly refute that. Can you imagine the Marlins entering the new stadium with a lineup that featured Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, and Mike Stanton? Something needs to be done and this jackass of an owner needs to be taken care of.

Pinstripe power2010-08-26 15:20:21 +0000 #2
kind of hard to argue the method when its won 2 world series, but yea i agree this guys sucks ***
LeBitteNoir2010-08-26 15:24:35 +0000 #3
I agree wholeheartedly.

Loria is a crook.

The man claims he's broke and then he goes around pocketing revenue sharing dollars and giving mounds and mounds of money to Yale University so that it could found an art center in his name as part of a $500 million dollar project. Welcome to the Jeffrey Loria Center for the History of Art:

opa.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=2455

What a joke. And what a f-ing crook.
Fred2010-08-26 15:43:14 +0000 #4
ok, so this guy is a douche, but he is playing by the rules....besides, he did win 2 titles in the last 15 years...how many teams can say that they have done better?

he is the opposite of the Yankees...they spend, spend and spend some more, while Loria just takes, takes, and takes some more....
marlinsfan242010-08-26 16:04:43 +0000 #5
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Originally Posted by Fred

ok, so this guy is a douche, but he is playing by the rules....besides, he did win 2 titles in the last 15 years...how many teams can say that they have done better?

he is the opposite of the Yankees...they spend, spend and spend some more, while Loria just takes, takes, and takes some more....

He bought the team in 2002 and inherited the team that won the WS in 2003. He didn't do much. After that year, our payroll has gone down and down. It finally came back up last season after the MLB ordered us to spend some money or else.
Pinstripe power2010-08-26 16:46:23 +0000 #6
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Originally Posted by Fred

ok, so this guy is a douche, but he is playing by the rules....besides, he did win 2 titles in the last 15 years...how many teams can say that they have done better?

he is the opposite of the Yankees...they spend, spend and spend some more, while Loria just takes, takes, and takes some more....

which is why i don't understand why he doesn't get more ****. sure everyone says that the yankees spend too much and it makes thing unfair, but at least they are trying to make the team better. this guy is just a greedy *******. People like him are the problem with baseball, not the teams that spend more
Padres Son2010-08-26 17:59:20 +0000 #7
I actually have no problem with the owners making as much money as possible. It's their team, it's their business, they should be able to do what they want. Just like fans should be able (and willing) to not support the team if they don't think it's being run well.

The only thing I have a problem with is the public funding for the stadium. How is it even possible that a city council could approve spending nearly $400 million of public money without seeing the Marlins accounting records??? This blows my mind. The people of Miami should sue their city council for spending their money so irresponsibly.

This would be like telling the IRS that you only owe $20 in taxes, and when they ask to see your financial records, you tell them to go **** themselves.
kylekash2010-08-26 15:39:39 +0000 #8
Loria wasn't the owner when the Marlins won their first World Series... he took over the team in 2002 I believe. To get a better look of his track record check out what he did to the Montreal Expos franchise. Ever since this guy entered the league as an owner he has been a cheap *** notorious for trading away his best players as soon as it was time to pay them. Not sure how he was ever allowed to become an owner in the first place.

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