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Why do people act like the Orlando magic are great? they got to the finals by DEFAULT


Kingdre6192010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
Before you read anything, let me state some things:

- Dwight Howard by no means has a great post game, i would say his post game is very very raw, he could use a new trainer to help him, caus obviouly he isnt listening to ewing. alot of his points come from alley-oops, put back's and the ocasional hookshot

- dwight howard is this team's only rebounder, their second leading rebounder was matt barnes with 5.5

- the magic have no true low post scorer

- their starting powerforward is a smallforward: rashard lewis

- their starting pg averages 12 and 5.5 asts -_-

- their second leading scorer averages 16 pts, and their leading scorer averages 18

this team's entire gameplan is to shoot three's all game, they have no real offense outside of three point shooting, and dwight howard's alley-oops and put backs.

they brought in VC, who is their only true scoring option, he one of the few players on that team that can generate offense by himself, when he shows up -_-

lets look at 2008-09 their "championship run": Via Wikipedia

- April 30: The Magic advanced to the second round of the NBA playoffs after defeating the Philadelphia 76ers in 6 games.

- May 17: In a Game 7 on the road, the Magic advanced to their first Eastern Conference Finals appearance since 1996 after defeating the defending world champion Boston Celtics.

- May 30: The Magic defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers 4-2 to advance to the 2009 NBA Finals and made their first appearance since 1995.

- June 9: The Magic earned their first NBA Finals game victory in franchise history. They beat the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 3 at Amway Arena by a score of 108-104. The Magic shot an NBA Finals single-game record 75% in the first half, and a record 62.5% for the entire game.[8] The Magic had lost their first six NBA Finals games (four in 1995 and two in 2009).

They beat the cavs -_-, no major feat, that team had no offense outside of lebron, and mo-williams, when he showed up

they beat the sixers...0_o WHO?

and they beat the celtics, without KG, and it took them 7 GAMES! 7

my claim is that the magic arent true title contenders, i dont see it, they got to the finals by default, because kg wasnt playing, the celtics would have undoubtedly beat the magic in 6 games, and have gone onto the finals again, to probably become back to back champs. but the past is the past, we cannot re-write history to make kg uninjured. but by all means, the magic went to the finals by default

its like when jordan retired, and hakeem got back to back rings. jordan wasn't there, it doesnt hold as much weight as it would have if jordan was active those two years, the first year he didnt play, and the second year i believe he got beat in the conference finals. but again, we cannot rewrite the past

their whole gameplan is to shoot threes and let dwight howard do everything for the team rebounding and defensively.

this team cannot win a championship, no way, they are not a contender, no question.

09-10:Playoffs:

Lost NBA Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) versus Boston Celtics

Won NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-0) versus Atlanta Hawks

Won NBA Eastern Conference First Round (4-0) versus Charlotte Bobcats

they beat a team who had never been to the playoffs before.

they beat a team that had no offense outside of jj AND jC

THEN THEY LOST in 6 games to the celtics, as they would have in 08 had Kg not been injured.

so what we are looking at is the eastern conference's version of the utah jazz

the team everyone calls a contender, but they really aren't

but lets look at 10-11, i donot see their current roster getting to the conference finals, not a chance, they would likely take a second round exit, this team needs alot of help before they can be considered: Title contenders

lets say they some how get chris paul mid-way through the season in a trade like: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2v25l5g

Jameer nelson, michael petrius, vince carter, and ryan anderson and some first round picks,for chris paul, emecka okeafor, james posey the trade would work perfectly cap wise.

then the magic would sign t-mac

imagine this lineup: chris paul, t-mac, lewis, okeafor, howard. bench: duhon, reddick, posey, bass and gortat

the hornets would have cap relief from emecka's contract, and petrius, nelson, and carter's deals would expire in 2 years

the magic would have a superstar pg, a scoring sg, a 3pt shooting sf, rebounding and defensive pf, and howard

and the bench ould have: deffensive specialist of posey, bass, gortat, reddick, and duhon
xbrackattackx2010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
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Ahh I see.
HakeemTheDream2010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
Against teams that can't defend Dwight with single-coverage, Magic is definitely a great team. Otherwise, they're no where near as good as they usually look. As long as Perkins and Bynum are around, they won't be winning any championships. And now that they got the powerhouse Heat to worry about, who can probably beat the Magic without properly defending Dwight - Miami will simply put Dwight into foul trouble with Lebron and Wade attacking the rim 24/7 which should be easy to do with Pietrus and VC defending them.
Chronz2010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
I hate when people say this about a team, maybe Im just not old fashioned but can someone tell me what constitutes a REAL Offense?
Kingdre6192010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
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Originally Posted by Chronz

I hate when people say this about a team, maybe Im just not old fashioned but can someone tell me what constitutes a REAL Offense?

to me: a player that can isolate on the perimeter, a post player that can get you 20. another scorer that can slash to the basket, and of course, shooters

not just hoisting up 3pt shots all day, for ex, the 07 suns i believe, they year they faced the spurs in the conference semis, they couldnt survive in the halfcourt, caus all they did was ran, and hoisted up 3pt shots, and pick and roll's
Kingdre6192010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
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Originally Posted by HakeemTheDream

Against teams that can't defend Dwight with single-coverage, Magic is definitely a great team. Otherwise, they're no where near as good as they usually look. As long as Perkins and Bynum are around, they won't be winning any championships. And now that they got the powerhouse Heat to worry about, who can probably beat the Magic without properly defending Dwight - Miami will simply put Dwight into foul trouble with Lebron and Wade attacking the rim 24/7 which should be easy to do with Pietrus and VC defending them.

but if the magic do what i proposed, they would easily be one of the top 3 teams in the east, easily, probably #2 behind boston
Avenged242010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
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Originally Posted by Kingdre619

but if the magic do what i proposed, they would easily be one of the top 3 teams in the east, easily, probably #2 behind boston

They already are easily a top 3 team out East.
Raph122010-07-30 06:36:34 +0000
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Originally Posted by xbrackattackx

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Ahh I see.

LMFAO!

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Originally Posted by Chronz

I hate when people say this about a team, maybe Im just not old fashioned but can someone tell me what constitutes a REAL Offense?

Agreed.

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