daleja4242012-01-27 22:44:49 +0000 #1
I have a serious question for you all...
Is Melo elite? Is he an all-star? Is he even all that good?
What is your opinion on Melo?
Since being traded to NY, the Knicks record is something like 20 games worse than the Nuggets, the team he was traded from. The Knicks are off to another slow start this year and they are coming off their best game of the year, a game where Melo didn't even really do anything.
Given Melo's propensity for taking low percentage shots and given that he really doesn't contribute much else to the game (minus passer/playmaker, minus defender, minus effort guy) is he really all that good?
In my opinion, I think he has become overrated. I'm not sure that Melo is the franchise/max player he has been made up to be. Personally, he is just a bit too one demensional and his ball-stopping probably actually hurts the Knicks.
Thoughts?
king4day2012-01-27 23:01:07 +0000 #2
He's an elite scorer. Doesn't mean he's a good team player. But by himself, he's one of the elite.
ebbs2012-01-27 22:50:25 +0000 #3
The dude is getting **** on recently but that doesn't change the fact that he is a top 7 NBA scorer. He also is a good rebounder at the 3 which rarely seems to get mentioned. He had a bad game tonight but his team won, so now everyone wants to call him out?
They were playing the damn bobcats without arguably their best player. Their are college teams that could probably beat Charlotte.
Melo has had to take a ton of shots because:
1: If he doesn't Toney Douglas/ Iman Shumpert have proven they will take then despite not being good scorers.
2: Amare has slumped hard to start the season.
3: Dantoni's knicks are a poor defensive club as a whole and have to shoot the lights out to stay in games.
IMO Melo is still a top 10 player.
daleja4242012-01-27 23:34:19 +0000 #4
ebbs, you can blame Amare all you want... but consider this. Amare was elite in Phoenix. He was elite to start last year. Then melo came along and he is "slumping." That is not a coincidence IMO...
And guess what, Melo is shooting sub 40% on the year. When you are shooting that poorly I can hardly call you an elite scorer. That is called CHUCKING. When you get 17 points on 21 FG attempts it is time to consider passing the ball...
daleja4242012-01-27 23:38:36 +0000 #5
I'm not ranking on him b/c of last night...that was just the straw that broke the camels back. Knicks have been bad since they got melo and the nuggets have been better for having gotten rid of him. Im not sure that screams elite player...
nycericanguy2012-01-28 00:23:31 +0000 #6
You know I've been hard on Melo, but I think the Melo bashing is getting out of control. The guy is playing with a sprained wrist, sprained ankle, and a sprained thumb. We all know he's not a 39% shooter, he's at 46% for his career, the injuries have to be affecting him.
NY went on the 6 game losing streak right after Melo injured his ankle & wrist. His shot will come around. As hard as I've been on him there are few players in the NBA that can do what he did against BOS in game 2 of the playoffs last year. That was an all world performance. So I'm willing to give him time and not judge him at his lowest when he clearly isn't healthy.
When he was healthy he was putting up 27, 7 & 5 on 46% shooting before the injuries.
Lets see what he does when he get healthy and NY actually gets their PG back next week.
daleja4242012-01-28 01:07:05 +0000 #7
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Originally Posted by nycericanguy
You know I've been hard on Melo, but I think the Melo bashing is getting out of control. The guy is playing with a sprained wrist, sprained ankle, and a sprained thumb. We all know he's not a 39% shooter, he's at 46% for his career, the injuries have to be affecting him.
NY went on the 6 game losing streak right after Melo injured his ankle & wrist. His shot will come around. As hard as I've been on him there are few players in the NBA that can do what he did against BOS in game 2 of the playoffs last year. That was an all world performance. So I'm willing to give him time and not judge him at his lowest when he clearly isn't healthy.
When he was healthy he was putting up 27, 7 & 5 on 46% shooting before the injuries.
and the Knicks were still losing...
How many other guys maintain an elite status despite thier team actually being worse with them on the team?
team success has to factor in here... elite players get their team over the hump...no?
we can't just throw out a 50 game sample size... where the Knicks are 10+ games under .500 since acquiring Melo... can we?
nycericanguy2012-01-27 23:45:55 +0000 #8
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Originally Posted by daleja424
and the Knicks were still losing...
How many other guys maintain an elite status despite thier team actually being worse with them on the team?
team success has to factor in here... elite players get their team over the hump...no?
they were 6-4 before Melo got hurt.
Look obviously things haven't gone great since the trade, but Melo didn't all of a sudden turn into a bad player, and Gallo didn't all of sudden turn into an all-star, they are both still the same players.
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